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RIchard Bach's breakout "Jonathon Livingston Seagull" comes to mind. <BR/><BR/>So, in an age when the measurers and counters get to control the creative outlet (for perfectly sound business reasons, of course!) where do the great surprise books, the ones that tell us what we <I>didn't</I> already know, come out?<BR/><BR/>A.H. Jessup<BR/>San DiegoAmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17311144180474507116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-10962878556658536172007-05-17T17:02:00.000-04:002007-05-17T17:02:00.000-04:00Jane, you are right; I am a food author with 10 bo...Jane, you are right; I am a food author with 10 books out there and I can tell you that I have seen a dramatic drop in care for authors by editors. I literally wrote all my books without much advice from my editors. It is disouraging to put so much effort into your work, only to have the bottom line be not quality but what will sell the most, even if it is trash.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-90296674350091493652007-05-11T01:31:00.000-04:002007-05-11T01:31:00.000-04:00My wife went to theAlgonkian Writers Conference a ...My wife went to theAlgonkian Writers Conference a couple of weeks ago and was fortunate enough to have two out of the four agents she pitched say they wanted to see her manuscript. Even given this interest, she is having a great deal of difficulty finding an agent who is interested in it. Why is that?<BR/><BR/>BTW, I have been pitching my book to agents since I first pitched it at the Pikes Peak Writers Conference last month. I get all sorts of encouraging rejections, but they are rejections none the less. They all are very encouraging, but none have wanted to see the manuscript. I am running out of agents who say they represent my genre. What to do?<BR/><BR/>http://novemberghosts.blogspot.com....https://www.blogger.com/profile/01907456204303747656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-23912052671749432342007-03-13T11:15:00.000-04:002007-03-13T11:15:00.000-04:00What influence might a succuessful author have to ...What influence might a succuessful author have to help make a change in publishing culture? For example, if the author sells well, does their opinion hold any weight with marketing/sales about what the editor does or which new writers the editor is trying to acquire?<BR/><BR/>Are we entering an age of independent editor/agents? Or literary agencies with a staff of editors?Todd Wheelerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00349317324371340746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-30232980365403408232007-03-10T11:23:00.000-05:002007-03-10T11:23:00.000-05:00Your comments are spot on. And they bleed into all...Your comments are spot on. And they bleed into all areas of publishing. I was a magazine editor for years and often found sales would dictate what articles we would select. Much depended upon what would suck the dollar from the pockets of our readers. Quality was a sad little redheaded stepchild in many cases. <BR/><BR/>These days I work as a writer and designer for an advertising agency (I prefer the term Media Whore, thank you). I do desperately miss editing and I still write a great deal for myself on the side. If we could wrest the majority of control away from the fingers of sales staff who lack the editorial training to polish a piece, I'd most definitely jump back into the game in that capacity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-3878538912750256222007-03-09T09:04:00.000-05:002007-03-09T09:04:00.000-05:00I'm a retired journalist and was aware for many ye...I'm a retired journalist and was aware for many years of who had the power in the newspaper business. It wasn't the editor or the writers, it was the money departments. The product isn't that important, it's the sale of it that is.<BR/>Bob LiterBob Literhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14158279275971404443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-67085694722699199572007-03-09T08:59:00.000-05:002007-03-09T08:59:00.000-05:00Thanks for making the complicated business of publ...Thanks for making the complicated business of publishing a little clearer, Jane. We writers don't often consider these elements until immersed in some particular issue or problem. Here's hoping your counterparts on the editor side are thinking along the same lines as you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-44177392219132018202007-03-07T12:11:00.000-05:002007-03-07T12:11:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Adrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11298655967684083706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-71542477896744328832007-03-06T15:23:00.000-05:002007-03-06T15:23:00.000-05:00Excellent insight. I remember reading Michael Kord...Excellent insight. I remember reading Michael Korda's book on publishing and he said the same thing. What's clear in my mind was the way the editors reworked "Catch-22." Would this novel even make it past the first round of readers today in the form it was when the editors first saw it? Maybe, but maybe not.<BR/><BR/>My favorite writing teacher was an editor. He showed me the very rudiments of writing. I learned how to cut something down and pick up the pace, how to make the prose flow, when the similes weren't working and why, and also encouraged me to find my character's values which will drive the entire piece. More importantly, I learned to dive deep and keep at it.<BR/><BR/>A marketing expert has different goals in mind, which are no less valid however, without the skills of someone to hone the language to original and sharp imagery, their job is far more difficult. And less interesting or challenging.<BR/><BR/>The balance of art and commerce had never been easy, the process everchanging.Kananihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317494343177263398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-60022667843460643422007-03-06T15:19:00.000-05:002007-03-06T15:19:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kananihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08317494343177263398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-59403442090935929082007-03-05T18:47:00.000-05:002007-03-05T18:47:00.000-05:00What's the communication like these days, between ...What's the communication like these days, between the departments? Art + Publicity + Editors.<BR/><BR/>Do they work closely together?<BR/><BR/>Carrie KabakAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-71103396912312258302007-03-05T14:45:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:45:00.000-05:00"Editors have to be given the time to properly car..."Editors have to be given the time to properly care for the books they acquire (for today, of course the editor does both acquisition and editing); they can no longer be responsible just for acquiring these manuscripts, they must more fully help their authors realize their total potential" --<BR/><BR/>I've been looking very closely at literary agency websites recently, as I'm in the process of rereading and editing my novel, having it proofread, etc.<BR/><BR/>I've noticed that several agencies mention working closely with clients to help edit and polish their work before it is submitted to editors. Is this primarily because editors themselves are not being given the time, as you mentioned, to care for the books they have acquired, so that, essentially, a manuscript needs to be just about ready "as is" when submitted to an editor by an agent?<BR/><BR/>It seems like a shame, if that's the case, to lose not only the wisdom, as you mentioned, of the editor - which matters in the overall quality of books being published - but the excitement of the collaborative process, for all involved - the author, the agent, and the editor.Robin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03258459688300851984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-32131056215770309272007-03-05T14:10:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:10:00.000-05:00If voices can be heard through sales and marketing...If voices can be heard through sales and marketing, then we readers need to buy more responsibly. If we purchase only works of quality and reccomend them to our friends and colleagues, in time, the message might ring clear throuhgout the publishing community.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for a refreshingly moral message in this market-driven world!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-50060973696224701932007-03-05T13:17:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:17:00.000-05:00I have a question. Do you think the role of edito...I have a question. Do you think the role of editor changes depending on the genre? It's just I am currently being edited in the children's book industry (mine is an MG), and I have had a heck of a lot of attention. I've had a lot of wonderful back and forth with my editor. So I am curious, do you think maybe it also depends on the type of book?Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01607530400279311428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-708570006811679382007-03-05T13:12:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:12:00.000-05:00What an interesting historical perspective. Obvio...What an interesting historical perspective. Obviously the problem is that marketing does take precedence over quality. As a reader, I really struggle with this. When you are done with a good book, you want to read another of that author RIGHT NOW. Publishers are trying to meet that demand (witness the success of Random Houses' back to back to back releases) and readers appreciate it, but the overall quality is lacking.<BR/><BR/>What could possibly bring about change? Readers being savvy enough to understand that the push for more isn't good for them in the end. But it's hard to suppress that human desire of want v. need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-72595010539685423272007-03-05T12:32:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:32:00.000-05:00It seems to me that the only way to get editors to...It seems to me that the only way to get editors to have more clout and the ability to ensure quality is going to be to convince the publishers that doing so will help their bottom line. I'm not sure how we do that.<BR/><BR/>The marketing and sales people are interested in what sells. This is a generalization, but I have to imagine it is largely accurate. If they are taking less risky approaches that do not result in the best work getting out there, how do we convince them that they will sell more with a different approach?EGPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12687289375551215794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-68006100937560705932007-03-05T12:28:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:28:00.000-05:00The question that immediately springs to my mind i...The question that immediately springs to my mind is this: Do you believe there are market forces at work in the publishing world that might actually bring this hopeful scenario you describe to fruition? Can publishing be compared to, say, the real estate market, which is currently experiencing a reality check after a protracted period of being purely money/greed-driven? I'd like to think that some sort of forces (market or otherwise) would affect the publishing industry in such a way that it would only make sense (financial and otherwise) for good editors to occupy the top-dog positions they deserve. I wonder if such thinking is simply wishful in this day and age, though.Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03882889048711405333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34218279.post-34311091147043790802007-03-05T11:00:00.000-05:002007-03-05T11:00:00.000-05:00Aaaaaaaaaa-men!Go editors!MaprilynneAaaaaaaaaa-men!<BR/><BR/>Go editors!<BR/><BR/>MaprilynneAprilynne Pikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17542901402256938872noreply@blogger.com